Friday, April 27, 2012

Making the game more fair

I've been playing the Fifa-series for some time now, and one of the things that's always been irritating me is that the game isn't fair when it comes to skills and gameplay.
In many matches it seems like the game is deciding who's gonna win. Your passes are off, your shots never hit goal, you don't get freekicks, your defence or keeper makes silly mistakes that ends with a goal. The other side of the coin is when the game gives you everything on a silver platter. The mistakes your opponent makes, creates chances for you.
The easiest glitch in this context is the corners. I've done a little study on the subject, and spotted something weird.
On many corners the defending teams defenders are placed at wrong places, f.ex. Rio Ferdinand standing outside the box, while a player like Nani is covering a tall defender. This corners end either in a goal or a chance to score, unless the player playing is way off key when it comes to delievery.
So after experiencing this a couple of years now I hope EA will create a game that's fair and is based on the players skills, and not the games engine. This creates a huge problem when playing online, cuz the game's not fair.|||I totally agree with you. It's clear for me that there's a CODED COMPENSATION METHOD. In the career mode, this is even more perceptible...
FINISH THIS EA, I know that some * is required to do so, but I trust you have them.

Clamping Down on Cheats/Glitchers/The Offensive

Examples...
http://forum.ea.com/uk/posts/list/378253.page
...the trigger glitch ( although tbf is being fixed by merely not giving you an option to look at the ratings screen, (wow, I wonder how long that took to program? :) ) however, it's March, people have got away with this glitch for far too long before EA woke up.
Played Besiktas the other day in 2v2, only for us to see that they Besiktas had recently signed Kaka, Messi, Rooney etc. etc. etc.
Leaderboard glitches, VP boosting/copying, offensive user names and Club names...Soooo....
We're all aware of the cheats etc., is it not time for EA to start stamping down on it? And what I mean by that is following Treyarch with Black Ops and temp/perma banning people's consoles from playing online. :) Yep, this is what they're doing, and it's not just one or two, they've gone on and unrelentlessly banned thousands of people. Complete zero tolerance for taking advantage of their game or offending other users, by misuse of usernames or emblems.
Of course we would need the ability to save entire matches and to report people i.e. a report button. (but surely these are overdue anyway?)
|||I'm not a big fan of banning people because it doesn't really solve the actual problem. But I do think EA should invest in match/user reporting features to allow the community to do some of the monitoring themselves, but more importantly makes it easier for EA to find those holes in their game and patch them.
|||Of course a glitch free game>Banning people.
But that's not feasible (especially when you look at ...well every FIFA.)
I think it's a good stance to take especially if you're going to take 5 months to fix a glitch, at least in the vast meatime you can ward people off from doing it with a big risk of punishment. Blacks Ops is testament for the success of this tactic.
As for people having offensive names, club names etc. how exactly do you tackle this apart from banning them?
Morons should be banned. :yessum:|||Nah I wasn't saying EA needs to make a glitch free game, but they need better methods to identify the glitches when they occur (because they will occur) and be able to find out why they happen and how to stop them. It wouldn't be taking 5 months if these things can be tracked faster.
I do agree about offensive names though as it's not really a fault in the system so perhaps the only step left for EA is to ban them temporarily and give them a better unchangeable name (something funny they're stuck with forever :) ). Though I'm not sure if that's EA's responsibility or MS/Sony's? .. either way, there's no place for them in the game and they definitely need some harsh measures.
|||Agreed on the identifying part.
Time it's taken is too long though. In the meantime (re: the trigger glitch) any form of real competiveness in the Club's leagues has become an absolute joke and bordering on pointless. In fact it's not bordering, it's ruined it -especially for people with elite clubs who take the leagues fairly seriously and play fairly.
However, if EA had done what B.O did, and threatened people with bans for taking advantage of their game's faults before they patched them (i.e. going outside the map etc. ) would we have seen the massive influx of cheats in Club mode, ruining it for everyone else?
Black Ops would suggest it wouldn't.
If it proves that they can't identify and fix glitches that ruin entire modes much better and quicker than they're exhibiting atm, I think this is a good solution, and deterrent that has proved to work.
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However, if EA had done what B.O did, and threatened people with bans for taking advantage of their game's faults before they patched them (i.e. going outside the map etc. ) would we have seen the massive influx of cheats in Club mode, ruining it for everyone else?

I'm wondering if FIFA has some sort of "evidence gathering system" that makes EA comfortable to warn people and later on carry through with those bans. For example, if somebody somehow cheats his way to 100 straight wins, do they appear any different on the server logs than somebody who has genuinely won 100 straight, or somebody whose opponents have quit on him in 100 straight wins? ... If EA do have such system in place, then I don't see why they wouldn't feel comfortable making such warnings and carry out with their promises.|||I always remember that video of Mr Rutter saying he had a specific team to watch and catch the cheaters for Fifa11 or was it Fifa10(not sure). What happened?

FIFA 12 Career Mode Improvements

1) Staff upgrades, scouting players & youth players should come back for 'Manager'
2) Play for Europe in the first season. It irratates me a little bit that no one even contests in Europe (even MUFC or Barca) until the first* mode season is completed.
3) Have the option to manage a national team after you've obtained a 5* rep as a manager or atleast there should be an option to manage a national team after your 15 years as a team manager to contest in qualifiers and cups
4) National games should come back for 'Player'
That's all I want right now for* mode.
What about you?|||you should have the ability to schedule training sessions and youth academy

Issues I have

My virtual pro
Why for my pro-club is my player an inch shorter than his actual height. Is this just a glitch in the menu, or does my player actually shrink by 1 inch when playing online, and if so, why?
Difficulty
I hate the difficulty settings in the current game, it seems that the only thing that changes when you increase the difficulty is the referee's bias towards the opposition, difficulty should be based on the opponent and the type of game. For example if two major teams are playing in the final, it should be really tense and difficult because neither teams will want to lose, whereas if a major team plays a 2nd or 3rd league team, it should be really easy for them.
Virtual Pros
Why are tall virtual pros so bad? My player is 6ft4 (because I'm 6ft4) and he spends all game chasing after everyone, tall people aren't necessarily slower than others (watch some 100m sprinters and tell me tall people aren't fast)
Also, small people are way too overpowered, the game has it that the smaller you are, the less strength you have, though I still find it impossible to throw a small player off the ball, and when I do, 9 times out of 10 the referee will call it up as a foul.
Another thing with small players is their uncanny ability to win headers, even against players how are more than a foot taller than them, I can understand it may happen sometimes based on better positioning and skill, but way to often will I lose out on a header to yet another 5ft virtual pro (absurdly coloured afro and MASSIVE nose included, of course)
Shooting
I understand that from FIFA 09/10 to FIFA 11 EA made massive changes to chip shots to make them more difficult to pull off, and that's fair enough, but now it seems it is way too easy to use finesse shots. I'd reckon it's just as hard to pull off a perfect chipped ball as it is to pull off a perfect curled shot, yet 9 times out of 10 a finesse shot will find itself nestled easily in the goal with little effort from the player.
Also, can something be done about players online who simply pass the ball across the 6 yard box and score an easy tap-in, I understand it can and does happen in real games but it's far too easy to pull off in FIFA, and it's really hard to defend against as the defensive AI is pretty appalling, I'll often have 2 or 3 defenders chasing after the player with the ball and another player will be sitting patiently in the 6 yard box for the tap-in with my other defenders nowhere to be found.
Defending
There's a number of issues here, one is that the ball will often clip straight through players that would otherwise block a shot, this also happens when two players compete for a ball in the air, either the ball will go straight through the defenders head, or the attacker will simply put his head through the defender to win the ball. Another problem is tackling and fouls, there's been so many occasions where I've made a sliding challenge, and missed both the ball and the player, yet it still appears as though the player has been hit and the referee will call it a foul, this is really frustrating, especially when it happens in the last minutes of a final and you lose because of it.
Also, clearances, seriously. What the hell? Why when I try to clear the ball from the penalty area does the ball go at a right-angle in mid air to go off the side of the pitch rather than up towards the half way line. The curl on clearances is weird at best, and down-right impossible to achieve in real life at worst. I believe I saved a video once where a defender was at the right corner flag, stepped over the ball and kicked it towards the half-way line, and the ball curled so hard in the air that it went into his own keeper's 6 yard box, who then picked the ball up (pass-back?)
What has actually been done to the game to make clearance kicks behave like this, it's just so weird.
|||Bump.

NO COINS REWARD IN TOURNAMENT

RECENTLY I HAVE PLAYED SEVERAL GAMES IN TOURNAMENT, AND NO COINS ARE REWARDED!!!!!!!
I WANT TO KNOW WHY?
I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED, IS THAT THE SERVER PROBLEMS AGAIN?????
PLS FIX IT AND GIVE ME BACK MY COINS.

Head to Head Ranked matches stuck at 2828 Points

Hi, dont know if this is the correct forum to post this but im having some issues with Ranked Head to Head matches.
Ever since i got to level 20 my points has remained at 2828, if i win a game it says ive lost 44 Points, if i draw its the same and if i lose its the same but i still stay at 2828 overall points.
If i go into my HUB it says ive won those games but im not even getting the Head to Head e-mail reports anymore which tell me about the match.
Is this a bug? How do i fix it?|||I've the same problem, I'm stucked at 4397 although I've won 3 consequtive games..
IS there anybody knows what the reason is?|||http://forum.ea.com/uk/posts/list/878322.page
EA points system seems to be dead and noone answers what's the problem...|||What EA not responding to problems with their games? Never! Fifa 11 has just been one big mess. Its why i havnt preordered Fifa 12 yet.

BIG PROBLEM!!

i played many ranked head to head matches in fifa 2011 and i didnt take any skill point however i win or lose in these matches and when i check player hub i didnt found my matches result
please anyone help!!!|||
Why is this happening and make some point? Not interested managers and outside rather than 'this, if something happens, why not alert but an announcement?

add auto-clear in FIFA 12

I opened this thread on the other forum, but since this is the official feedback and suggestions forum I'll post it here hopin that'll be taken into consideration by EA. Here I go:
Like the subject says.. I think EA should remove the auto-tackle, maybe only from strikers and midfielders and leave the auto-tackle for defenders ONLY.
Another thing I'd like FIFA 12 to have is the auto-clear when you're in danger, just like PES. It's annoying when the opposition crosses the ball and the defender chest the ball instead of clearing it out, even if you gave him the command, it's uncontrollable and frustrating.

Really EA????

Playing as the New york red bulls, i sent out 24 transfer offers for various Left and Right backs. all were denied because my league is not prestigious enough. leagues i offerd to:
10 France
2 Switerland
1 England
7 Germany
4 Spain
Ages:
20 and under: 1
20-30: 13
30 and over: 10
I doubled the salary of 20 players as well.
It's plain ridiculous. players over 30 going to the us for huge salaries is common these days, except i wasn't even going for huge stars.|||So true. I've managed LA & Zenit. For LA I tried to buy some players from Switzerland, Vancouver (in Rest Of World) & Brazil but it was saying I'm not in a presitgious league. ForZenit I tried to buy Berbatov & Dzeko as I had enough money to buy Messi but had a weak strike force. But the league wasn't prestigious enough.

PRO RANK RATINGS are HORRIBLE

Anyone else tired of playing Online Pro Team Matches and sinking from your 6.0 rating to a 5.7 because of ONE bad pass??
What a lopsided system. THIS SHOULD BE FIXED.
I just finished playing a few matches online and I will list the rating system...
Started match and within the first 5 minutes (real time) I had 2 assists... yet my rating still remained at a nice even 6.0....
Then, later in the half, I sent a corner kick which was knocked away.. which resulted in my rating to be knocked down to a 5.9.
Later I had a few nice through balls that never got a rating, but oh wait, I had ONE bad pass, so my rating went down to a 5.3...
I don't know what happened to this "rating" system, but it seems that it's all about not making a single mistake, rather than being rewarded on making good plays... I remember when I first starting playing with my "pro" I was always in the 7-9 ratings each game... now I can barely scrape by with an average 6.0 rating. Why is that? Why have they changed the system to only penalize bad plays and not rewarding good ones?? It's a joke.
You can score a hatrick in the first half and only have a 6.3 rating... yet you are caught out of position for a second and you lose a point??
|||Change the time back to 4 min half.
I was playing 8 min then in clubs my player ratings were always low.

Fifa 11 Offside lifted ?

Hello , i've recently played a match on fifa 11 ( offline ) where a player that is on offside receives the ball from another team player , where i commit a fault on , the offside is lifted and the player who was on offside can go on with the ball ?
Does the player where i commit a fault on get the fault instead of letting the offside go on ?
I thought offside always was given ? :) :)

Player glitch in Manager Mode

Hey guys,
I just resumed my manager mode this afternoon to find that my CAM Carrozzi has disappeared? :) I was only playing this mode last night.
details:
Club: Varese
Player: Carrozza
Pos: CAM
Calender date: feb 22 2011
the player has been replaced with an undefined character? where his overall is, theres a number it says 202065, it says he is a goalkeeper but his icon colour is yellow?
When i press advance to the next week, he disappeares completely from the squad.
I've supplied the two pictures to show you.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/superiorraw/5676846984/sizes/m/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/superiorraw/5676286991/sizes/m/in/photostream/
I posted this up so that hopefully someone could see this from the programming or development team, and make any necessary changes. Mods if this is in the wrong section please move it.
I can provide any other feedback regarding this glitch.

Juninho Pernambucano back at vasco de gama

I see that Juninho is back at vasco de gama and i feel he is one of the greatest players ever so does that mean he will be in the next squad updates? i really hope he is! :)|||Isn't the next squad update FIFA 12?|||


I see that Juninho is back at vasco de gama and i feel he is one of the greatest players ever so does that mean he will be in the next squad updates? i really hope he is! :)

if he stays then yes, he will be in FIFA 12

Player not doing well??

what kind of * is that??... I had H.Rodallega score 3 goals against fullham, and at the end of the game he wasn't doing well????... went from 74 to 73....
whats wrong with you people?

ULTIMATE TEAM 12 IDEA

ive been thinking bout this idea for a while thought i would type it up you should get cards in packs so you can customise your players like get cards for
different boots cards
differnt colour ankle tape cards
short or long sleeve cards
differnt colour glove cards
differnt colour wrist tape cards
sock height low or high cards
bassically have all the stuff you can edit your virtual pro

Ultimate Team - Selling players and losing coins???

why is it wen someone buys one of my players for the buy now price i sometimes get around 15.000 coins less?
this has happened to me twice today!
i had 99,000 then sold Angel Di Maria for 300,000 and end up with only 385,00 !!!! how is this possible and why does it keep happening?|||You "pay" a certain amount in "fees" to mimic a real auction, at least as far as i know. I'm pretty sure it says that somewhere.

team player names

Hi can anyone help the last few days of playing fifa 11 any team i play with and only MY team all the players names are wrong nothing like how they should be.Can anyone help my change this???????? :)((|||


Hi can anyone help the last few days of playing fifa 11 any team i play with and only MY team all the players names are wrong nothing like how they should be.Can anyone help my change this???????? :)((

Reset your squads and then redownload the latest update.|||Cheers mate worked a treat :))))

Virtual Pro/ Clubs - Addition suggestions

Ok so one major thing I play more than anything is clubs and whilst the player creation is good there are still a fair few things I think that are missing that are a large part of clubs.
Custom badges & custom kits It's been talked about plenty of times that creation centre should be used for clubs and it's my understanding that this was the plan by EA. I think this would be a very big step up for clubs as it would give teams their own identities rather than "the team who play in the Gillingham kit" for example. It would also add more individualism to the matches as clubs would have their own badges as opposed to real team badges.
Shirt numbers: One of the best websites for clubs players (thehttp://www.fvpa.co.uk) and many other sites all have something in common which is that teams design their own avatars with their own shirt numbers. This is a very common part of forum based clubs now and VP's can already choose their shirt numbers. What is missing is the ability to choose a shirt number for the club you play for. I think managers should be able to assign a shirt number to his/her clubs players. This may be a small feature to some people but it is evident that it means a lot to many many clubs players as they spend so much time getting high quality avatars made to represent the shirt number they want.
Some examples can be seen below:

Adding this would give forum teams (who are very dedicated to clubs) something they have been asking for since the release of FIFA 10) and would give players the feeling of having their own shirt number they have earned.
Tattoos: It's been talked about for a very long time but customizing and individualism is something many people love about their VP's. Whilst I personally tend to stick with one look throughout I still cannot make myself as I am in real life as my forearms are pretty much fully tattooed. With so many people in real life having tattoos and the same for real players it only makes sense to embrace a culture that tattoos are very common in. I think it was FIFA 09 in UT they had tattoos that could be applied and whilst they were just club badges and looked pretty poor, the ability to do it is there and all that is needed is 10-50 tattoo designs to get the buyer happy with his new found ability to create a more realistic version of himself.
Accessories: One thing I have noticed is a lot of the community have "wacky players" and by this I mean players who have multi coloured accessories which do not look realistic and are very rarely seen in club football. I'm not suggesting this should be removed but it could be modified so that you have five choices with colouring of arm bands/ tape etc The five choices could be black, white, kit colour, kit colour and white and kit colour and black. This would stop people from having one blue glove, one green glove, orange boots and big blue hair and a white and blue kit and looking like a clown. The individualism/ customization would still be there but the player would have blue gloves/ blue tape rather than mis-matching gloves. This would add a layer of realism as I doubt very much leagues would allow players to come out with multi coloured mis-matching accessories that could be distracting to other players. It would however still give people the option to have the accessories and have various choices.
Another idea with accessories is for those people who like a small difference is adding an option to wristband called "national flag" so the VP could have his national flag wristband on. Obviously there is a setting for nationality on a player so when a person selects Ivory Coast for example and then selects wristbands on with national flag they could have the national flag armbands like Gervinho does (as pictured below)

Gameface: One thing that is a pain is removing game face if you download one. I would suggest an easy "remove game face" option in-game as removing it via the memory has caused multiple issues in the past including VP corruption.
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I will add more to this when I have time. I'll also add any ideas that people suggest that I agree would be a good addition.
|||As well as it is written, all this is on the clubs thread thats already on here. Well most of it. I do remember the tattoos on fifa09 when UT came out for your virtual pro.

How to get a fair game

I need to know how I can get a fair andcompetative game. It might just be my perception, but it feels that most of the people that I play online have manipulated their team to get the advantage. I personally do not use any custom tatics or change my formations, but I KNOW many people do. I think it cheapens the game and I just wouldnt feel right doing that. To be honest, I dont know how to do it! Even if I did I wouldnt though. So many games I get beat by that header that none of my defenders seem to know is coming, or that perfect cross that, again no one knows is coming. And the defenses that I face, with the incredible tackling, none of which is a foul. I now understand why some atheletes use steroids. Its hard to compete against others that have some kind of advantage! If anyone can tell me what they are doing, and what I can do to combat it, I would appreciate it.

what can i do with the players that exit from online during the game?

it happens to me a lot and it is not normal!!!!!!|||All you can do is file compliant if your on xbox as well as submit player review to AVOID