I've been playing the Fifa-series for some time now, and one of the things that's always been irritating me is that the game isn't fair when it comes to skills and gameplay.
In many matches it seems like the game is deciding who's gonna win. Your passes are off, your shots never hit goal, you don't get freekicks, your defence or keeper makes silly mistakes that ends with a goal. The other side of the coin is when the game gives you everything on a silver platter. The mistakes your opponent makes, creates chances for you.
The easiest glitch in this context is the corners. I've done a little study on the subject, and spotted something weird.
On many corners the defending teams defenders are placed at wrong places, f.ex. Rio Ferdinand standing outside the box, while a player like Nani is covering a tall defender. This corners end either in a goal or a chance to score, unless the player playing is way off key when it comes to delievery.
So after experiencing this a couple of years now I hope EA will create a game that's fair and is based on the players skills, and not the games engine. This creates a huge problem when playing online, cuz the game's not fair.|||I totally agree with you. It's clear for me that there's a CODED COMPENSATION METHOD. In the career mode, this is even more perceptible...
FINISH THIS EA, I know that some * is required to do so, but I trust you have them.
Friday, April 27, 2012
Clamping Down on Cheats/Glitchers/The Offensive
Examples...
http://forum.ea.com/uk/posts/list/378253.page
...the trigger glitch ( although tbf is being fixed by merely not giving you an option to look at the ratings screen, (wow, I wonder how long that took to program? :) ) however, it's March, people have got away with this glitch for far too long before EA woke up.
Played Besiktas the other day in 2v2, only for us to see that they Besiktas had recently signed Kaka, Messi, Rooney etc. etc. etc.
Leaderboard glitches, VP boosting/copying, offensive user names and Club names...Soooo....
We're all aware of the cheats etc., is it not time for EA to start stamping down on it? And what I mean by that is following Treyarch with Black Ops and temp/perma banning people's consoles from playing online. :) Yep, this is what they're doing, and it's not just one or two, they've gone on and unrelentlessly banned thousands of people. Complete zero tolerance for taking advantage of their game or offending other users, by misuse of usernames or emblems.
Of course we would need the ability to save entire matches and to report people i.e. a report button. (but surely these are overdue anyway?)
|||I'm not a big fan of banning people because it doesn't really solve the actual problem. But I do think EA should invest in match/user reporting features to allow the community to do some of the monitoring themselves, but more importantly makes it easier for EA to find those holes in their game and patch them.
|||Of course a glitch free game>Banning people.
But that's not feasible (especially when you look at ...well every FIFA.)
I think it's a good stance to take especially if you're going to take 5 months to fix a glitch, at least in the vast meatime you can ward people off from doing it with a big risk of punishment. Blacks Ops is testament for the success of this tactic.
As for people having offensive names, club names etc. how exactly do you tackle this apart from banning them?
Morons should be banned. :yessum:|||Nah I wasn't saying EA needs to make a glitch free game, but they need better methods to identify the glitches when they occur (because they will occur) and be able to find out why they happen and how to stop them. It wouldn't be taking 5 months if these things can be tracked faster.
I do agree about offensive names though as it's not really a fault in the system so perhaps the only step left for EA is to ban them temporarily and give them a better unchangeable name (something funny they're stuck with forever :) ). Though I'm not sure if that's EA's responsibility or MS/Sony's? .. either way, there's no place for them in the game and they definitely need some harsh measures.
|||Agreed on the identifying part.
Time it's taken is too long though. In the meantime (re: the trigger glitch) any form of real competiveness in the Club's leagues has become an absolute joke and bordering on pointless. In fact it's not bordering, it's ruined it -especially for people with elite clubs who take the leagues fairly seriously and play fairly.
However, if EA had done what B.O did, and threatened people with bans for taking advantage of their game's faults before they patched them (i.e. going outside the map etc. ) would we have seen the massive influx of cheats in Club mode, ruining it for everyone else?
Black Ops would suggest it wouldn't.
If it proves that they can't identify and fix glitches that ruin entire modes much better and quicker than they're exhibiting atm, I think this is a good solution, and deterrent that has proved to work.
|||
I'm wondering if FIFA has some sort of "evidence gathering system" that makes EA comfortable to warn people and later on carry through with those bans. For example, if somebody somehow cheats his way to 100 straight wins, do they appear any different on the server logs than somebody who has genuinely won 100 straight, or somebody whose opponents have quit on him in 100 straight wins? ... If EA do have such system in place, then I don't see why they wouldn't feel comfortable making such warnings and carry out with their promises.|||I always remember that video of Mr Rutter saying he had a specific team to watch and catch the cheaters for Fifa11 or was it Fifa10(not sure). What happened?
http://forum.ea.com/uk/posts/list/378253.page
...the trigger glitch ( although tbf is being fixed by merely not giving you an option to look at the ratings screen, (wow, I wonder how long that took to program? :) ) however, it's March, people have got away with this glitch for far too long before EA woke up.
Played Besiktas the other day in 2v2, only for us to see that they Besiktas had recently signed Kaka, Messi, Rooney etc. etc. etc.
Leaderboard glitches, VP boosting/copying, offensive user names and Club names...Soooo....
We're all aware of the cheats etc., is it not time for EA to start stamping down on it? And what I mean by that is following Treyarch with Black Ops and temp/perma banning people's consoles from playing online. :) Yep, this is what they're doing, and it's not just one or two, they've gone on and unrelentlessly banned thousands of people. Complete zero tolerance for taking advantage of their game or offending other users, by misuse of usernames or emblems.
Of course we would need the ability to save entire matches and to report people i.e. a report button. (but surely these are overdue anyway?)
|||I'm not a big fan of banning people because it doesn't really solve the actual problem. But I do think EA should invest in match/user reporting features to allow the community to do some of the monitoring themselves, but more importantly makes it easier for EA to find those holes in their game and patch them.
|||Of course a glitch free game>Banning people.
But that's not feasible (especially when you look at ...well every FIFA.)
I think it's a good stance to take especially if you're going to take 5 months to fix a glitch, at least in the vast meatime you can ward people off from doing it with a big risk of punishment. Blacks Ops is testament for the success of this tactic.
As for people having offensive names, club names etc. how exactly do you tackle this apart from banning them?
Morons should be banned. :yessum:|||Nah I wasn't saying EA needs to make a glitch free game, but they need better methods to identify the glitches when they occur (because they will occur) and be able to find out why they happen and how to stop them. It wouldn't be taking 5 months if these things can be tracked faster.
I do agree about offensive names though as it's not really a fault in the system so perhaps the only step left for EA is to ban them temporarily and give them a better unchangeable name (something funny they're stuck with forever :) ). Though I'm not sure if that's EA's responsibility or MS/Sony's? .. either way, there's no place for them in the game and they definitely need some harsh measures.
|||Agreed on the identifying part.
Time it's taken is too long though. In the meantime (re: the trigger glitch) any form of real competiveness in the Club's leagues has become an absolute joke and bordering on pointless. In fact it's not bordering, it's ruined it -especially for people with elite clubs who take the leagues fairly seriously and play fairly.
However, if EA had done what B.O did, and threatened people with bans for taking advantage of their game's faults before they patched them (i.e. going outside the map etc. ) would we have seen the massive influx of cheats in Club mode, ruining it for everyone else?
Black Ops would suggest it wouldn't.
If it proves that they can't identify and fix glitches that ruin entire modes much better and quicker than they're exhibiting atm, I think this is a good solution, and deterrent that has proved to work.
|||
However, if EA had done what B.O did, and threatened people with bans for taking advantage of their game's faults before they patched them (i.e. going outside the map etc. ) would we have seen the massive influx of cheats in Club mode, ruining it for everyone else?
I'm wondering if FIFA has some sort of "evidence gathering system" that makes EA comfortable to warn people and later on carry through with those bans. For example, if somebody somehow cheats his way to 100 straight wins, do they appear any different on the server logs than somebody who has genuinely won 100 straight, or somebody whose opponents have quit on him in 100 straight wins? ... If EA do have such system in place, then I don't see why they wouldn't feel comfortable making such warnings and carry out with their promises.|||I always remember that video of Mr Rutter saying he had a specific team to watch and catch the cheaters for Fifa11 or was it Fifa10(not sure). What happened?
FIFA 12 Career Mode Improvements
1) Staff upgrades, scouting players & youth players should come back for 'Manager'
2) Play for Europe in the first season. It irratates me a little bit that no one even contests in Europe (even MUFC or Barca) until the first* mode season is completed.
3) Have the option to manage a national team after you've obtained a 5* rep as a manager or atleast there should be an option to manage a national team after your 15 years as a team manager to contest in qualifiers and cups
4) National games should come back for 'Player'
That's all I want right now for* mode.
What about you?|||you should have the ability to schedule training sessions and youth academy
2) Play for Europe in the first season. It irratates me a little bit that no one even contests in Europe (even MUFC or Barca) until the first* mode season is completed.
3) Have the option to manage a national team after you've obtained a 5* rep as a manager or atleast there should be an option to manage a national team after your 15 years as a team manager to contest in qualifiers and cups
4) National games should come back for 'Player'
That's all I want right now for* mode.
What about you?|||you should have the ability to schedule training sessions and youth academy
Issues I have
My virtual pro
Why for my pro-club is my player an inch shorter than his actual height. Is this just a glitch in the menu, or does my player actually shrink by 1 inch when playing online, and if so, why?
Difficulty
I hate the difficulty settings in the current game, it seems that the only thing that changes when you increase the difficulty is the referee's bias towards the opposition, difficulty should be based on the opponent and the type of game. For example if two major teams are playing in the final, it should be really tense and difficult because neither teams will want to lose, whereas if a major team plays a 2nd or 3rd league team, it should be really easy for them.
Virtual Pros
Why are tall virtual pros so bad? My player is 6ft4 (because I'm 6ft4) and he spends all game chasing after everyone, tall people aren't necessarily slower than others (watch some 100m sprinters and tell me tall people aren't fast)
Also, small people are way too overpowered, the game has it that the smaller you are, the less strength you have, though I still find it impossible to throw a small player off the ball, and when I do, 9 times out of 10 the referee will call it up as a foul.
Another thing with small players is their uncanny ability to win headers, even against players how are more than a foot taller than them, I can understand it may happen sometimes based on better positioning and skill, but way to often will I lose out on a header to yet another 5ft virtual pro (absurdly coloured afro and MASSIVE nose included, of course)
Shooting
I understand that from FIFA 09/10 to FIFA 11 EA made massive changes to chip shots to make them more difficult to pull off, and that's fair enough, but now it seems it is way too easy to use finesse shots. I'd reckon it's just as hard to pull off a perfect chipped ball as it is to pull off a perfect curled shot, yet 9 times out of 10 a finesse shot will find itself nestled easily in the goal with little effort from the player.
Also, can something be done about players online who simply pass the ball across the 6 yard box and score an easy tap-in, I understand it can and does happen in real games but it's far too easy to pull off in FIFA, and it's really hard to defend against as the defensive AI is pretty appalling, I'll often have 2 or 3 defenders chasing after the player with the ball and another player will be sitting patiently in the 6 yard box for the tap-in with my other defenders nowhere to be found.
Defending
There's a number of issues here, one is that the ball will often clip straight through players that would otherwise block a shot, this also happens when two players compete for a ball in the air, either the ball will go straight through the defenders head, or the attacker will simply put his head through the defender to win the ball. Another problem is tackling and fouls, there's been so many occasions where I've made a sliding challenge, and missed both the ball and the player, yet it still appears as though the player has been hit and the referee will call it a foul, this is really frustrating, especially when it happens in the last minutes of a final and you lose because of it.
Also, clearances, seriously. What the hell? Why when I try to clear the ball from the penalty area does the ball go at a right-angle in mid air to go off the side of the pitch rather than up towards the half way line. The curl on clearances is weird at best, and down-right impossible to achieve in real life at worst. I believe I saved a video once where a defender was at the right corner flag, stepped over the ball and kicked it towards the half-way line, and the ball curled so hard in the air that it went into his own keeper's 6 yard box, who then picked the ball up (pass-back?)
What has actually been done to the game to make clearance kicks behave like this, it's just so weird.
|||Bump.
Why for my pro-club is my player an inch shorter than his actual height. Is this just a glitch in the menu, or does my player actually shrink by 1 inch when playing online, and if so, why?
Difficulty
I hate the difficulty settings in the current game, it seems that the only thing that changes when you increase the difficulty is the referee's bias towards the opposition, difficulty should be based on the opponent and the type of game. For example if two major teams are playing in the final, it should be really tense and difficult because neither teams will want to lose, whereas if a major team plays a 2nd or 3rd league team, it should be really easy for them.
Virtual Pros
Why are tall virtual pros so bad? My player is 6ft4 (because I'm 6ft4) and he spends all game chasing after everyone, tall people aren't necessarily slower than others (watch some 100m sprinters and tell me tall people aren't fast)
Also, small people are way too overpowered, the game has it that the smaller you are, the less strength you have, though I still find it impossible to throw a small player off the ball, and when I do, 9 times out of 10 the referee will call it up as a foul.
Another thing with small players is their uncanny ability to win headers, even against players how are more than a foot taller than them, I can understand it may happen sometimes based on better positioning and skill, but way to often will I lose out on a header to yet another 5ft virtual pro (absurdly coloured afro and MASSIVE nose included, of course)
Shooting
I understand that from FIFA 09/10 to FIFA 11 EA made massive changes to chip shots to make them more difficult to pull off, and that's fair enough, but now it seems it is way too easy to use finesse shots. I'd reckon it's just as hard to pull off a perfect chipped ball as it is to pull off a perfect curled shot, yet 9 times out of 10 a finesse shot will find itself nestled easily in the goal with little effort from the player.
Also, can something be done about players online who simply pass the ball across the 6 yard box and score an easy tap-in, I understand it can and does happen in real games but it's far too easy to pull off in FIFA, and it's really hard to defend against as the defensive AI is pretty appalling, I'll often have 2 or 3 defenders chasing after the player with the ball and another player will be sitting patiently in the 6 yard box for the tap-in with my other defenders nowhere to be found.
Defending
There's a number of issues here, one is that the ball will often clip straight through players that would otherwise block a shot, this also happens when two players compete for a ball in the air, either the ball will go straight through the defenders head, or the attacker will simply put his head through the defender to win the ball. Another problem is tackling and fouls, there's been so many occasions where I've made a sliding challenge, and missed both the ball and the player, yet it still appears as though the player has been hit and the referee will call it a foul, this is really frustrating, especially when it happens in the last minutes of a final and you lose because of it.
Also, clearances, seriously. What the hell? Why when I try to clear the ball from the penalty area does the ball go at a right-angle in mid air to go off the side of the pitch rather than up towards the half way line. The curl on clearances is weird at best, and down-right impossible to achieve in real life at worst. I believe I saved a video once where a defender was at the right corner flag, stepped over the ball and kicked it towards the half-way line, and the ball curled so hard in the air that it went into his own keeper's 6 yard box, who then picked the ball up (pass-back?)
What has actually been done to the game to make clearance kicks behave like this, it's just so weird.
|||Bump.
NO COINS REWARD IN TOURNAMENT
RECENTLY I HAVE PLAYED SEVERAL GAMES IN TOURNAMENT, AND NO COINS ARE REWARDED!!!!!!!
I WANT TO KNOW WHY?
I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED, IS THAT THE SERVER PROBLEMS AGAIN?????
PLS FIX IT AND GIVE ME BACK MY COINS.
I WANT TO KNOW WHY?
I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED, IS THAT THE SERVER PROBLEMS AGAIN?????
PLS FIX IT AND GIVE ME BACK MY COINS.
Head to Head Ranked matches stuck at 2828 Points
Hi, dont know if this is the correct forum to post this but im having some issues with Ranked Head to Head matches.
Ever since i got to level 20 my points has remained at 2828, if i win a game it says ive lost 44 Points, if i draw its the same and if i lose its the same but i still stay at 2828 overall points.
If i go into my HUB it says ive won those games but im not even getting the Head to Head e-mail reports anymore which tell me about the match.
Is this a bug? How do i fix it?|||I've the same problem, I'm stucked at 4397 although I've won 3 consequtive games..
IS there anybody knows what the reason is?|||http://forum.ea.com/uk/posts/list/878322.page
EA points system seems to be dead and noone answers what's the problem...|||What EA not responding to problems with their games? Never! Fifa 11 has just been one big mess. Its why i havnt preordered Fifa 12 yet.
Ever since i got to level 20 my points has remained at 2828, if i win a game it says ive lost 44 Points, if i draw its the same and if i lose its the same but i still stay at 2828 overall points.
If i go into my HUB it says ive won those games but im not even getting the Head to Head e-mail reports anymore which tell me about the match.
Is this a bug? How do i fix it?|||I've the same problem, I'm stucked at 4397 although I've won 3 consequtive games..
IS there anybody knows what the reason is?|||http://forum.ea.com/uk/posts/list/878322.page
EA points system seems to be dead and noone answers what's the problem...|||What EA not responding to problems with their games? Never! Fifa 11 has just been one big mess. Its why i havnt preordered Fifa 12 yet.
BIG PROBLEM!!
i played many ranked head to head matches in fifa 2011 and i didnt take any skill point however i win or lose in these matches and when i check player hub i didnt found my matches result
please anyone help!!!|||
Why is this happening and make some point? Not interested managers and outside rather than 'this, if something happens, why not alert but an announcement?
please anyone help!!!|||
Why is this happening and make some point? Not interested managers and outside rather than 'this, if something happens, why not alert but an announcement?
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